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Episodes 1 - 5

EPISODE 1: Damaged Goods?

Does having sexual contact with an adult male so harm a boy that he is irreparably "broken" from then on?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  Nicholas


TIME:  10:49


DATE:  06/01/24  

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Episode 2: Are Boylovers Gay?

Why do so many  boylovers bristle at being called "gay" yet while acknowledging the homosexual nature of their attraction?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Nicholas


TIME:   8:34


DATE:  06/18/24

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Episode 3: The P Word

Has the word "pedophile" become so poisoned and negatively charged that MAPs wish to use any term except that?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover


TIME:  21:13


DATE:  07/06/24

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Episode 4: What Constitutes Abuse?

While many boylovers emphasize the consentual nature of their contacts with boys, they acknowledge that sexual abuse sometimes does occur. What, then, is the difference between what they want to do, and child sexual abuse?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover


TIME:  16:47


DATE:  07/20/24

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Episode 5: Partnering With GLs Instead of Gays

Since the beginning, boylovers have thought of gay men as their likeliest potential allies. But would partnering with girl-lovers be a better strategy?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas


TIME:  24:41


DATE:  08/19/24


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Episodes 6 - 10

Episode 6: Life on the RSO List

What does it take to get placed on the registry, and how does it affect your life after serving your time -- especially being convicted of an offense involving a child?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy


TIME:  29:17


DATE:  08/26/24


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Episode 7: Your Orientation According to Your YF

Many boys think of their adult friends as being straight, while some believe (or know) that their AF is gay, and some even know that he is BL.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover


TIME:  23:22


DATE:  09/05/24


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Episode 8: Care and Feeding of Your YF

When doing things with their boy, the boylover naturally assumes all the costs and expenses involved. But some have gone even further and been a main provider for their YF, as much as -- or more than -- his parents.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Wolfrunner


TIME:  20:46


DATE:  09/13/24


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Episode 9: Anything Goes -- Except For That

We live in a very permissive society that tells us we should be ourselves and take pride in who we are, no matter what. You "do you" and express who you are. UNLESS you are a minor attracted person, then you have to keep that a secret that you take to your grave. No, you can't express yourself there.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy, Wolfrunner, Gary


TIME:  24:49


DATE:  09/26/24

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Episode 10: License to Love a Boy

Imagine if a boylover went through a "vetting process" where his sincerity is proven, and then he's given a license -- so to speak -- to be entrusted with a boy, and to have a YF with societal approval.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Cowboy, Gary


TIME:  37:25


DATE:  10/07/24


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Episodes 11 - 15

Episode 11: Your Ideal YF and Trying to Please Him

What kind of boy are you most attracted to, and have you ever been able to enjoy a friendship with your ideal boy? And if so, did you often go out of your way to please him? Did you go out of your way to please any YFs (or other boys in your life))?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy, Wolfrunner


TIME:  26:56


DATE:  10/10/24


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Episode 12: Born This Way

Most straight people believe they were just born that way. They don't question their straight-ness. Many gays believe so, too. So does it follow that boylovers, as well, are born that way? Then why do so many believe they must be BL because something screwed them up early in life?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Cowboy, Wolfrunner, Gary


TIME:  27:27


DATE:  10/10/24


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Episode 13: Mom vs Dad

When it's time to meet the boy's parents, who would a boylover rather be introduced to: his mom or his dad? And why? Many BLs do seem to have an opinion on this.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Wolfrunner


TIME:  38:12


DATE:  11/02/24


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Episode 14: Scaled Back Ambitions

How many boylovers (or MAPs of any kind) have deliberately avoided a career in the public eye, or decided against pursuing a political career, because of the fear -- and almost certainty -- that their orientation would come out, and they would be ruined?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy, Wolfrunner


TIME:  29:50


DATE:  11/06/24


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Episode 15: Do Parents "Own" Their Kids?

A child is not granted the status of a free and sovereign person by society. So the person you love is not actually a "person" at all, but the property of a person. That being, his mom or dad. In this episode we discuss the potential pitfalls a MAP must navigate when dealing with his young

friend's parent(s).


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Cowboy, Wolfrunner, Gary


TIME:  42:22


DATE:  11/13/24


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Episodes 16 - 20

EPISODE 16: WHEN HE GETS TOO OLD

What happens to man/boy love when the boy becomes a man? Some say the temporary nature of BL relationships mean it's not a genuine love. Others counter that romantic love need not be "forever and ever" in order to be true and real:  the sexual aspect may fade, but the bond is eternal.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Gary, Boiforever

TIME:  24:42

DATE:  11/20/24


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Episode 17: Dumped

His parents didn't end the relationship -- he did. Maybe he just wasn't that into you anymore. Or perhaps you're not really liking him as much as you used to. What happens when he "dumps" you (or you dump him)?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Cowboy, Gary, Wolfrunner

TIME:  45:45

DATE:  11/21/24


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Episode 18: When Your Son is a Hottie (Being a BL Dad)

Let's say a boylover is a parent, and he has a young son. Now say that boy is very beautiful, especially when he's in the BL's age of attraction. What's it like to be a boylover dad with a super hot 11-year-old son?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Cowboy, Wolfrunner

TIME:  32:51

DATE:  12/04/24


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Episode 19: Trying Not to Make it (too) Obvious in Public

Nearly all boylovers have probably had this experience:  out in public with their friends or family, and there is a gorgeous boy (or boys) that stick out to him like a sore thumb -- and he can't let others know that. He may be worried about looking too much, or his body language giving him away, or (yikes!) an erection, even. Awkward.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Cowboy

TIME:  26:21

DATE:  12;/13/24


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Episode 20: NAMBLA

The North American Man/Boy Love Association is a very well known pro-boylove advocacy group, founded in 1978. Over the years it has arguably gained some degree of  notoriety, and as a result most boylovers have strong opinions about it. Many also have experiences, memories, and for some it was their introduction to boylove itself.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  52:55

DATE:  12/20/24


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Episodes 21 - 25

EPISODE 21: The Ideal BL Relationship

There are a number of different types of man/boy relationships, reflecting the variety of ways in which men and boys connect with each other. In this episode, the panelists discuss the type which they consider to be the most ideal for both partners.

HOST:  Lennon72

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy, Boiforever

TIME:  37:46

DATE:  12/27/24


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Episode 22: MAPs With Adult Partners

At first it may seem odd:  a minor attracted person with an adult partner or spouse. But while it's true that some MAPs are also capable of adult attraction and relationships, others are interested mainly in keeping up appearances.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Gary, Ryan James, Wolfrunner

TIME:  45:49

DATE:  01/06/25


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EPISODE 23: Knowledge and Wisdom for Your YF

What is the situation for the best and most beneficial relationship between a boylover and his young friend, where the adult's experience and knowledge can be most successfully imparted to the boy?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Wolfrunner

TIME:  31:56

DATE:  01/15/25


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EPISODE 24: Michael Jackson

The King of Pop was many things:  rich, famous, smart, talented, and, according to many, a pedophile. In this episode, the panelists discuss the man who was probably the most famous boylover ever.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  01:06:45

DATE:  01/23/25


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EPISODE 25: Pedophile Hunters

"Predator Poachers" is a group of people who attempt to "bust" pedophiles by luring them to a meeting, through an account on an online dating app that professes to be used by a minor. When the adult in question messages the "minor" and tries to arrange a meeting, with the supposed intent of having sexual contact. At this meeting, the "Poachers" reveal their true selves, agressively berating this "sicko" for wanting sex with a minor and threatening to go to the police, all the while video recording it for their YouTube channel.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Cowboy, Fragment, Wolfrunner

TIME:  44:00

DATE:  02/01/25


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Episodes 26 - 30

Episode 26: Hot for Student

In middle schools across the nation, there seems to be an unmistakable trend of young, attractive female teachers having sex with their 12- and 13-year-old male students.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Nicholas, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  30:19

DATE:  02/06/25


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Episode 27: I Was a 12-Year-Old Porn Star

Sammy BLaster is a boylover with a very interesting and unique childhood. At the age of 9 he got into the pornography business, and left at age 13. In this episode, he tells us about his experiences and takes questions..


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Cowboy, Fragment, Lennon72, SammyBlaster

TIME:  01:05:52

DATE:  02/14/25


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Episode 28: Bacha Bazi

In Afghanistan, the centuries old custom of adult men taking young boys to be their sexual partners has caused a great deal of controversy in recent years. The panel takes a look at "Bacha Bazi" to find out if this is really "boylove", or more like child sexual abuse.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Buster, Fragment, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  43:05


DATE:  02/23/25


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Episode 29: Charting the Course to Equality

The stigma against being attracted to children has pushed MAPs and boylovers so far in the closet, with few ever being brave enough to "come out" and face the withering torrent of hatred. But can this be changed? Is there a way for MAPs to gain respect in society? And if so, how?


HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  01:01:33

DATE:  02/28/25


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Episode 30: Ancient Greek Pederasty: Was it Love or Abuse?

Pederasty in Ancient Greece has always been portrayed as a beneficial situation for the boys involved, but now scholars are taking a new look at it, asking if perhaps it was not really "love" at all, but rather systematic child sexual abuse.

HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Lennon72, Wolfrunner

TIME:  34:30

DATE:  03/07/25


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Episodes 31 - 35

Episode 31: The Language of Hate and Opression

One hundred percent of the wording, phrasing and terms associated with minor attraction and adult/child sexual contacts are purposefully negative. This negatively infused tone in any reference to MAP feelings or activities has permeated the culture thoroughly, influencing the language that even MAPs themselves use. Hopefully, calling attention to this will lead to an effort to change it.


HOST:  Zoomzoom4


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Lennon72, Cowboy, Wolfrunner


TIME:  30:16


DATE:  03/22/25


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Episode 32: What Kind of Boylover Are You?

Boylovers are of all ages, types, styles and from all walks of life. There is no stereotypical boylover. In this episode, the panelists, while all boylovers, discuss what makes each of them unique.

HOST:  Lennon72

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Wolfrunner

TIME:  31:40

DATE:  03/31/25

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Episode 33: History of Relations Between LGBT and MAPs

Relations between the LGBT and MAP communities have been traditionally strained, to say the least. Yet the two communities have a long history together, sharing many of the same special dates and cultural touchstones.


HOST:  Lennon72


PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Wolfrunner


TIME:  36:47


DATE:  04/07/25


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Episode 34: Being a Transgender MAP

In this episode, the panelists talk to a 28-year-old transgender boylover, asking various questions. In addition, the following topics are discussed:

* Is the recent rollback in transgender rights an ominous sign for future hoped-for MAP rights?

* Is it worth pursuing a MAP addition to the LGBT acronym?

* How are the rights of transgender youth similar to the rights of minors in a relationship with a MAP?

HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Dragonlover, Nicholas, Lennon72, Vativi, Wolfrunner

TIME:  01:06:44

DATE:  04/14/25

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Episode 35: The Age of Consent (What Should It Be?)

Every MAP has an opinion on what the legal age of consent should be. In this episode, the panelists share their thoughts on what they believe should be the age at which a boy (or girl) can legally consent to sexual activities.

HOST:  Zoomzoom4

PANEL:  aboysXO, Nicholas, Fragment

TIME:  39:41

DATE:  04/21/25

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